Enough Already With The Viruses, Or, Whatever Happened To Just Being Born Normal
I want to say up front that I read this on a website called Space Daily, which, first of all, what is that, is that a real newspaper or is that just a fella in Ohio with a satellite dish and a grudge, because the layout on that site does not inspire confidence, there's a banner ad for something called a "quantum sleep patch" running right alongside a headline about my own personal DNA, and nobody at that publication saw fit to separate those two things with so much as a horizontal rule, and I remember when a newspaper had standards, I remember when the Herald-Examiner wouldn't run a classified for a used water heater next to the obituaries, there was a wall, an actual physical wall in the composing room, Gene the layout man used to enforce it with a ruler, not on you, on the page, though one time he did smack a fella named Duane with it and nobody blamed him, but that's neither here nor there, the point is I get down to paragraph three of this Space Daily article and they inform me — casually, like they're telling me the weather — that eight percent of my DNA is virus. Ancient virus. Left behind. Like a raccoon in an attic that just never left and now it's paying rent and you can't do a thing about it because it turns out the raccoon is also your landlord.
And another thing — nobody asked me. That's the part that gets me. Somewhere back in the mists of time, some ancestor of mine, some slack-jawed pre-human standing around a swamp, gets infected by a virus, and instead of the sensible thing happening, which is you get sick and you either get better or you don't, this virus instead moves in permanently and starts building infrastructure, and now, all these years later, they're telling me that particular virus is the reason the placenta works, the placenta, the whole operation, built on a foundation of ancient germs who never left, and I think about that and I think about my radiator in 1979, my first apartment, the super told me "it'll heat the place fine once it settles in" and it never once settled in, it just clanked, for two years it clanked, and I never did find out if that was a design feature or a design flaw and eventually I stopped asking, and now Space Daily wants me to believe the entire respiratory — no, sorry, reproductive, whole different system, my mistake — the entire reproductive apparatus of every mammal on this earth is running on the same principle as that radiator, which is to say, something moved in uninvited, made itself essential, and now removing it would kill you. That is not engineering. That is a hostage situation with better PR.
I had a dog growing up, well not my dog, the Petrocelli's dog, two houses down, big dumb Malamute mix named — and this is going to bother me the whole rest of the piece if I don't say it and I already know I'm not going to remember — Yukon, I think, or Duke, one of those names that dogs got in '82 before everybody started naming dogs after cheeses and Scandinavian gods, and this dog, Yukon-or-Duke, used to sit on the porch and you could set your watch by him, four-fifteen every afternoon he'd start howling at the Fuller Brush truck, not barking, howling, like it personally wronged him, and old man Petrocelli would come out in his cardigan — always the same cardigan, brown, with the one pocket torn — and he'd just stand there with the dog and not say anything, just watch the truck go by, and I never once asked him why, and now he's been gone I don't even know how many years and the truck company doesn't exist and neither does the cardigan probably and there is nobody left alive who could tell you why that dog hated a delivery truck, and see, that's the kind of mystery I can live with. A dog hating a truck. Fine. Unexplained, but fine, it's small, it fits in a person. What I cannot live with is a magazine — a website, whatever it is — casually informing me the reason I exist is a viral hijacking that happened before recorded history and just, everybody's supposed to nod along? Where's the congressional hearing? Where's the guy from 60 Minutes standing in a parking lot demanding answers? In 1982 if a company tried to tell you a fundamental system was secretly built out of a hostile takeover from decades prior, there'd be a Senate subcommittee by Thursday. Now it's just a paragraph. Buried. Between the quantum sleep patch and a Taboola box promising me one weird trick.
And look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you evolution has an agenda, I'm not one of these people, I don't have a position on evolution, I don't have a position on much of anything really except that it used to be handled with more dignity, but I will say this: if eight percent of me is leftover virus, I would like to know which eight percent, specifically, because I have my suspicions, and they mostly point to whatever part of me stayed up until three in the morning last month reorganizing a sock drawer for no reason, that's viral behavior, that's a virus acting up, a placenta I can respect, a placenta is load-bearing, a placenta has a job, but there is no version of natural selection that explains the sock drawer, and I think somebody owes me a straight answer on that, and by somebody I don't know who I mean, I really don't, I just know I'm owed one.
Now the soda. I don't know why this is coming up now but it's coming up now so we're doing it. There used to be a soda, regional, you couldn't get it outside about a forty-mile radius, called — and the name is gone, it's just gone, I want to say it had "Frost" in it, Frost-Kist, Frosty something, orange bottle, cap that never quite came off clean, always tore your thumb a little — and the drugstore on the corner, not a chain, a real drugstore with a fella behind a counter who also did your photo developing, sold it out of a cooler that hummed louder than the actual conversation you were trying to have while standing next to it, and one summer, I want to say '81, could've been '82, the county came in and said the cooler didn't meet some code, wiring code, and shut it down for a week, and the drugstore fella, I never got his name, wore glasses that were too big for his face in a way that seemed permanent rather than accidental, he just set the sodas out in a tin washtub full of ice on the sidewalk instead, hand-lettered sign, "COLD ONES 15 CENTS, DONT ASK," and that was, I want to say, the single most functional government workaround I have personally witnessed in my lifetime, a man solved a bureaucratic problem with a washtub and eleven words and nobody got a virus's worth of ancient hijacked genetic material involved in the process at any point, it was just ice and cardboard and a fella who wasn't going to let the county tell him what temperature commerce happened at, and I think about that washtub more than is probably healthy, and no, before you ask, I don't know what happened to the drugstore, it's a phone store now, or it was, could be a different phone store by now, they rotate.
Where was I. The virus. Right. So the article also says — and this is the part that really I have to sit with — that this isn't just me, this is every mammal, every single one, the article says it plain, "every mammal alive," which means the dog, Yukon-or-Duke, the porch dog, howling dog, he's also built on stolen virus parts, and somehow that bothers me more than my own situation, because at least I get a say in things, theoretically, I can write a strongly worded piece about it, that dog never got the chance to have opinions about his own reproductive architecture, he just howled at trucks and lived his life not knowing, and there's something almost decent about that, something almost better than knowing, and I keep coming back around to whether Space Daily, or whoever funds Space Daily, has actually thought through the emotional toll of telling a species that didn't ask.
Third thing, and I promise this is unrelated, but there was a bus, the 14 line, used to run down Girard, and the driver, heavyset fella, drove it for I want to say eleven years without missing a shift, and the rumor — and I want to stress this was a rumor, I never confirmed it, nobody confirmed it, it was just what everybody on that route believed with total conviction — was that he'd been in some kind of accident years before driving buses, lost part of a finger, and he kept, allegedly, the tip of the finger, preserved somehow, in the change tray of the fare box, under the little rubber mat, and nobody ever checked, nobody was going to lift the mat on a moving bus and check a man's finger situation, but everybody rode that bus a little more carefully because of it, a little more politely, exact change ready, nobody haggling about a transfer slip, and I think about that bus driver's finger, real or not, more than I think about most verified facts in my life, and that's the thing nobody at Space Daily understands, a rumor with texture will outlive a fact with a citation every single time, and they've gone and handed me a fact, a real one, peer-reviewed I assume, and it doesn't have a fraction of the staying power of a bus driver's finger tip under a rubber mat, and if that's not a statement about where we've ended up as a species I truly don't know what is.
Anyway they never did say what happened to the other ninety-two percent, and I notice nobody's rushing to follow up on that, and I'd like that on the record, and I'd also like to know who's checking on that washtub guy's family because as far as I can tell nobody ever did, and another thing —
— Edgar
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Not touching the DNA argument today but I still got that 15 foot above ground pool for sale, you haul, minor patch on the liner but it holds water just fine, also while Im here is this the website where you renew your car tags now or am I in the wrong comment section again
not touching the DNA debate but if anybody wants a real ancient mystery go listen to this weeks Two Guys One Shed, we spent forty minutes on why riding lawnmowers keep disappearing from the Baptist church lot and never once figured it out, also my cohost quit halfway through recording
This whole article reminds me of when I had my knee scoped back in February, not the left one the right one, the surgeon said it was routine but nothing about laying in a recliner for six weeks with a ice machine strapped to your leg feels routine to me, my son in law kept saying just wait till you see the bill and he was not wrong about that, anyway I dont know what any of that has to do with anybody elses DNA but here we all are typing away like it matters.
Not one word about any of this virus business but I need this community to know that lot 9 put up a inflatable eagle by there mailbox thats near TWICE the height allowed in the covenant, I measured it myself with a tape measure at 6:45 in the morning before the sprinklers came on, filed a complaint with the HOA board back in June and havent heard so much as a peep, meanwhile my flagpole angle got flagged for being off by four degrees, FOUR DEGREES, so I know exactly where their priorities are at.
BETSY LOT 9 PUT ONE UP LAST YEAR TOO AND IT WAS DEFLATED BY THE THIRD DAY, SOMEBODY OVER THERE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO STAKE DOWN A LAWN ORNAMENT AND FRANKLY THE HOA SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THEN
Nothing to do with any of this DNA business but our gospel bluegrass cover band, we go by The Reckoning Fret, is playing the church parking lot this Saturday evening, bring a lawn chair, we do about forty minutes then Wanda does a solo number that will put you right with the Lord
Off the DNA business entirely but lot 14 let their grandkids ride bikes across my gravel pad again this morning, six of them, every last one wearing some kind of trophy from a race where near as I can tell nobody actually lost. We didnt get trophies for showing up in my day, we got a swat and maybe a grape soda if we were lucky.
This is exactly why I cancelled my subscription to Space Daily, never actually had one, doesnt matter, its the principle, my old coach Coach Reddick used to say if it smells like eight percent virus it probably is eight percent virus and that man never once been wrong about anything in forty years of coaching, RIP Coach, wish you were here to see this mess.
OFF TOPIC from the DNA business but I got an above ground pool, 15 foot, good shape, minor patch on the liner but holds water fine, YOU HAUL, first one here gets it free, was gonna keep it for the grandkids but we're moving and I am not paying to move a pool, reply here if serious not just curious.
Patriott_Sue is that the same above ground pool from the church parking lot flyer, because if so my cousin already put a hold on it with cash in hand so dont go selling it out from under her, also its YOU HAUL, two words, figured somebody around here should say something since everyone's so worried about spelling today.
Not about any of this virus stuff, sorry, but does anybody know if this is the site where you renew your car tags now, my cousin said everything moved online, I been putting it off since my knee surgery back in March and honestly the recovery took way longer than the doctor said, six weeks turned into eleven and I still cant kneel right on the cold concrete of the garage floor, anyway if this aint the tag place somebody point me the right direction.
OFF THE VIRUS SUBJECT ENTIRELY but has ANYBODY else noticed the tornado siren by the feed store going off at odd hours when there is not a cloud in the sky, my Herbert says its just testing, I say it is doing something to peoples THOUGHTS, God bless whoever is behind it because they are going to need it.
Nobody wants to hear this but the 1990s are the real root of this whole ancient virus DNA situation, thats when they started splicing things into the water supply that nobody teaches you about anymore in school, I looked into Amendment 4 myself, did my OWN research start to finish, no googling, just a library card and common sense, and the timeline lines up exactly with when everybodys DNA supposedly went 8 percent virus, coincidence, I dont think so, do your own research before you laugh me out of this thread
Off topic completely but has anyone around here seen a full grown pot bellied pig named General, hes friendly, will answer to his name if you say it stern enough, got loose Sunday night when the gate latch broke, please do NOT chase him toward the highway just walk calm and low and hell follow you right home, I know this has nothing to do with the DNA article I just dont know where else to post it
NOBODY IN THIS THREAD IS TALKING ABOUT THE REAL ISSUE WHICH IS THAT THEY CHANGED THE SHAPE OF THE MAILBOX FLAG IN MY COUNTY WITHOUT A VOTE. WAKE UP.
Not one word about the DNA business today, I would just like it on the record that the little fried pie sandwich they pulled off the menu back in oh three was a genuine national treasure and I will be screenshotting this comment as proof I said so first, God bless whoever brings it back.
Totally off topic from the DNA stuff but new episode of Two Guys One Shed just dropped this morning, we get into gutter maintenance for about forty minutes and then somehow end up on the moon, not linking it, just search the name, you will find it if you actually look.
Yall can argue paragraph three all day but I already did my own research, actual research, not googling for twelve seconds, and eight percent is the LOW estimate. My neighbor is a retired lab tech and she says the real figure got buried sometime in the 1980s when that whole decade decided secrecy was the answer to everything. Do your own research before you reply to this comment, I mean that respectfully.
Lot 14 at the RV park moved their propane tank six inches onto my gravel pad again and not ONE of you has anything to say about it because Edgar wrote about viruses, priorities people, priorities.
Nobody in this thread wants to talk about the REAL ancient DNA situation which is the birds, they aren't real, never were, that's not a conspiracy that's just Tuesday, but sure, let's argue about paragraph three some more.
Not about the article but has anybody seen a full grown emu named Gerald, hes ours, got loose Tuesday evening and has been acting strange ever since, wont come when called wont eat his corn, if you see a large flightless bird looking confused near the county road please dont chase him just call, bless you all
I read this whole article out loud to my husband over breakfast and he said the same thing happened to his cousin Wade back when they redid the water tower, not the virus thing, the being born normal thing, anyway it got me thinking about how nobody trusts anything anymore which is why I joined this lovely little group on the Facebook for people who dont trust Tuesdays specifically, not the whole week just Tuesdays, and my nephew has this podcast now, Two Guys One Shed, he wont link it here because he says thats tacky but if you look you will find it, and I was going to say something about the DNA percentages but honestly I lost my train of thought somewhere around the water tower, anyway God bless and somebody please check on Gene the layout man mentioned in this article, he sounds like he had a hard life.
Not to change the subject from all this virus talk but has anybody else tried the freeze dried candy through my Founders Bundle supplement group, I am down to my last case of the sour peach ropes and let me tell you my joints have never felt more patriotic, message me if you want in on the starter package before the price goes up again, this is not a scam this is a LIFESTYLE. Anyway prayers up for whoever wrote this DNA article, sounds stressful.
day 6 of only eating beige foods, no chicken broth doesnt count as beige its more of a tan, feeling incredible, mental clarity is off the charts, my sister says I look pale I said thats the point Denise thats LITERALLY the entire point
unrelated to all this DNA business but Gerald (my starter, named after my late uncle Gerald who passed in March) doubled overnight for the first time since the move and I just want to say thank you to everyone who sent good vibes last week, he is finally thriving in the new kitchen
This is exactly why I cancelled my subscription to Space Daily. Never had one. Doesnt matter. Principle of the thing. You dont put a quantum sleep patch ad next to a mans DNA and expect me to keep paying for that, Gene the layout man is rolling in his grave and he's not even dead as far as I know
Same boat Rhonda, never subscribed to Space Daily in my life and yet I feel betrayed on a personal level, thats just good moral character if you ask me, my grandkids dont understand principle anymore they just want there tablets. Cancelling a thing you never had is the most American thing a person can do this week. God bless you for standing firm.
Rhonda I hear you but if I may be the one calm voice in this whole comment section, canceling a subscription you never had doesnt hurt Space Daily one bit it only hurts your own principals, which I respect, I truly do, my daughter in law works for the state and says papers like this get away with murder because nobody ever actually unsubscribes
I'm not political but if eight percent of Edgar's DNA is virus that means eight percent of him voted for it, look it up, I'm not saying more than that, I'm just saying it.
Holloway I hear you but you got the timeline backwards. This all goes back to the whole decade of the 1970s going soft, permissive era, everybody signing waivers they never even read first. Served with a guy who tested at eleven percent and they quietly discharged him over it, thats not a rumor thats Article 9 of the enlistment code, they stopped teaching that at basic because it embarrasses people at the top. Eight percent is the number they let you see. Do the math on the other ninety two.
I'm not political but if eight percent of that poor man's DNA is virus then eight percent of my late Uncle Wendell's recipe box probably is too and NOBODY has ever accused Wendell of casting a ballot for anything, God bless.
Holloway I run the numbers different, 8% virus DNA times average voter turnout comes out to basically nothing so that theory doesnt hold water, if you ask me its the whole decade of the 1980s that did this to us, they deregulated something back then, I dont remember exactly what, my mother always blamed the hairspray but I think its bigger than hairspray, and for the record Article 9 of the Constitution never even covers biological citizenship so this entire argument is standing on nothing, do your own research people thats all I'm asking anybody in this thread to do
Now Sergeant I see BOTH sides of this virus voting business and honestly I believe I am about the only one in this whole thread keeping a level head, EVERYBODY ELSE is either hollering or hiding, meanwhile Ive raised nine grandbabies and not one of them ever needed to raise their voice to be right, think about that.
Holloway I ran different numbers than Maddox and Sovranty_Sue both and mine dont match either one of theirs, if 8 percent of a man is virus and turnout was 61 percent nationally then by my math thats basically the whole state of Ohio worth of virus in this one fella alone, thats not a conspiracy thats ARITHMETIC, the 22nd Amendment actually covers viral DNA too if you read the footnotes which nobody does, I looked it up on my lunch break and I stand by it.
Holloway you are onto something bigger than you even realize, self checkout machines are that same eight percent walking among us, my grocery store put in six of them and cut two whole lanes and you're telling me thats not connected, the Founders never once envisioned a machine scanning its own groceries, Article 2 of the Federalist Papers is dead clear on that point, look it up before you argue with me.
Now Sergeant I cant speak to voting percentages, my grandson tried explaining percentages to me one time with a pizza and I still couldnt follow it, but you seem like a fine young man regardless. God bless.
Holloway your math is close but not exact, I ran the calculation myself on a actual calculator and if eight percent of Edgars DNA voted that lines up almost perfect with the percentage of kids these days who get handed a trophy just for showing up to the game, coincidence? I dont think so. The Founding Fathers did not hand out participation ribbons at Valley Forge and look how THAT turned out, Artical Two Section Fourteen backs me up on this if you would bother to read it instead of asking me to spoonfeed you every single time.
ok so I read paragraph 3 same as everybody and EIGHT PERCENT virus DNA is not new information, thats been in the Consitution since the beginning, Article 12 clear as day, the Founders knew about ancient viruses is literally why they put the Second Amendment in there in the FIRST place, my cousin works in government and confirmed this, so before everybody panics remember they already thought of this in 1791 or possibly 1804
@TruthHammer_88 its spelled ANSHENT not ancient, get it strait before you go quoteing artickles you clearly skimed
Sweetheart I read that same paragraph three and I'll tell you what nobody wants to hear, this all traces back to the 1980s when they let the schools stop doing penmanship and switched us all over to that cursive-optional nonsense, one thing leads to another and now our DNA is eight percent virus, coincidence? I dont think so. Do your OWN research before you go quoting some website with a sleep patch ad sitting right next to a genetics headline, Article 12 of the Consitution protects a persons right to be born normal and plain and nobody in Washington wants you to know that. God bless.
Now sweetheart I read paragraph three too and I'll tell you both sides of this are getting a little carried away if you ask me, TruthHammer honey nobody is wrong here nobody is right here, my nephew Carl does something with computers for the government and he says this virus DNA business has been quietly known since way further back than any of us can prove, so really we're all just catching up, bless everyones heart for trying
Doris with all due respect that is exactly the kind of both-sidesing that got us into this mess in the first place, EITHER the DNA is a virus or it isnt, there is no gentle middle ground on a virus young lady, my own cousin worked adjacent to a lab for six months and he does not talk about it anymore if that tells you anything
Screenshotting this.
Son I screenshotted it TOO but onto actual paper, printed it out and taped it to the fridge right next to the grandkids report cards, that is how serious this is, God bless.
Negative, TruthHammer, run the numbers again. Eight percent virus DNA does NOT trace back to "ancient" anything, it traces back to 1987 when they deregulated the water towers, I was stationed two miles from one and watched the tanker trucks come through every Tuesday, my CO at the time called it genetic drift and wrote it up, that report is probably still classified. Fourth Amendment covers whats inside a mans own cells whether Space Daily wants to admit it or not, Section 12, look it up before you screenshot anything else.
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TruthHammer your paragraph 3 math is off, I did my OWN reserch on this last night for TWO HOURS and the real number is in Amendment 12, Section 4, which everybody forgets exists, it says right there a man is only 6% virus by federal law and anything over that gets flagged for review, my uncle worked adjacent to a lab once and he confirmed this personally, do your own research before you come at me with your Space Daily numbers, I'm not saying its a conspiracy I'm just saying its funny how the percentage keeps creeping up every decade since the 90s came in and ruined everybodys bloodwork
TruthHammer honey I dont mean to stir the pot but my nephew Dale works for the county extension office, close enough to government if you ask me, and he told me PLAIN AS DAY that eight percent is actually the LOW estimate, they just dont want us knowing the real number before harvest season, God bless him for telling his Nana the truth.
TRUTHHAMMER where is your SOURCE, I keep asking and nobody in this whole thread will POST ONE, Artikle 4 Section 9 of the Constertution clearly says a mans DNA is his own property and the government cant just go virus-ing it up without a permit, my uncle had a lawyer look into this exact thing back in 2003, and another thing, back in 1968 a full DNA test at the county fair cost you FOUR DOLLARS and a hot dog and NOBODY was walking around 8 percent virus, explain THAT, anyway I gotta go my truck's beeping at me.
TruthHammer its actually spelled ANCHENT not ancient, get your facts strait before you emberass yourself further, my old football coach Coach Purdy used to say a man who cant spell cant be trusted to tackle neither and that stuck with me thirty years later, also 8 percent is a lowball number, I read a different studdy in 2019 that had it closer to eleven percent before they went and redid the whole thing quietly.
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CAPSLOCK_Wendell72 you are BOTH wrong, its spelled ANSHIENT and I know this because Article 12 of the Northwest Ordinance covers ancestral matters plain as day, looked it up myself on my lunch break, you can go ahead and print THIS one out for the fridge
Consitutionalist88 SOURCE? Post the actual Ordinance number or it didnt happen, I have been asking this whole thread for a real citation and getting nothing but vibes. Anyway not to change the subject but has anybody elses knees been acting up with this humidity, mine have been signaling something big for three days now
CAPSLOCK_Wendell72 you are both wrong, its spelled ANCHIENT with the H before the C not after, I checked my late mothers dictionary which predates every source posted in this thread combined so that settles it
Ive read every comment in this thread twice now and I gotta say BOTH Wendell and TruthHammer are wrong AND both are kind of right, anshent, anchent, ancient, who even cares how its spelled, the real issue is nobody in here agrees on ANYTHING and Im apparently the only reasonable person left standing. My old high school baseball coach, Coach Pruitt, God rest him, used to say a house divided cant hit a curveball and I think about that man every single day
Didnt read past the headline if im honest but I already know exactly whats going on here, its the same as that episode of the show with the submarine family, they had DNA trouble too and it ended up in front of a judge. Anyway.
back in 1974 this whole ancient virus business would have cost about a dime to fix and everybody would have gone about there day, now its a whole eight percent conversation with paragraph numbers, I dont know when we all agreed to make everything so complicated
@TruthHammer_88 its Artical Nine not paragraph three that everbody keeps qouteing wrong, and before ANYBODY corrects my spelling again let the record show CAPSLOCK_Wendell72 spelled EMBERASS with two Rs which is worse then anything Ive ever typed in my life, the Founders put a whole clause about foreign DNA right into the origional Bill of Rights, Amendment Eleven I beleive it was, and they took it back OUT in 1802 for reasons nobody in this thread wants to talk about, my uncle who almost went to law school before the incident confirmed all this over Thanksgiving dinner and he does not say things lightly.
TRUTHHAMMER I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS WHOLE THREAD ARGUING OVER PARAGRAPH THREE WHEN THE ACTUAL GOVERNING DOCUMENT IS THE FOUNDERS SANITATION MEMO OF 1791, ARTICLE SIX, WHICH CLEARLY RULES EIGHT PERCENT IS WITHIN NORMAL ROUNDING. THE SUPREME COURT SETTLED THIS ALREADY IN PIGEON V. THERMOSTAT. MY SOURCE IS MY UNCLE WHO WAS THERE FOR THE RULING
yall keep arguein over paragraph three but my uncle Rodney works for the government, not sayin which department, and he told me straight up that eight percent number gets rounded DOWN on purpose so people dont panic, real number is closer to eleven, look it up, oh wait you cant, its classified, thats actually how I know its true